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>> i'm erin burnett. this is a special edition of "out front," election day in america. four hours from now the first presidential election polls are going to close. and that is when we'll get the first real glimpse of who americans want in the white house for the next four years. now, our special coverage begins at 6:00 eastern, the networks fanned out around the country, more places than anywhere else. i'm in columbus, ohio, it is a must-win state with 18 electoral votes at stake. both campaigns know the path to victory, the path to the white house almost always includes ohio. that is why the candidates have more -- spent more time in the whi ao season. mitt romney and paul ryan are in ohio right now. they're in cleveland, north of where i am, for a late scheduled stop today. they know as we have told you so many times, no republican has ever won the white house without ohio. and surprise, this is sort of an interesting logistical issue
today, in between romney and ryan's planes on the tarmac, vice president joe biden's plane was in the distance, all literally there at the same time. he made an unannounced stop in cleveland this afternoon on his way to meet up with the president in chicago where they will watch the results tonight. didn't stop in ohio today. he did speak to reporters during a stop at his campaign's chicago field office though. >> i also want to say to governor romney, congratulations on a spirited campaign. i know that his supporters are just as engaged and just as enthusiastic, working just as hard today. we feel confident we have got the votes to win. but it is going to depend ultimately on whether those votes turn out. >> the polls close here in ohio at 7:30 p.m. but, we may not know the winner tonight or frankly even in the next few days if what been calling the nightmare scenario
comes true. usa today said ohio recount plan could take election into overtime. the new york times wrote, in case of a recount, a long wait a het nit the strong headline "the cincinnati enquirer" wrote, close vote would trigger complex countdown. it all really comes down to these provisional ballots. i want to hold it up. i showed it to you last night, i want to show it to you now. this is yellow. this is the ballot you cast when your eligibility is questioned at the polls. that can happen in several ways, your address changed or perhaps you requested an absentee ballot, but didn't actually file it absentee. these provisional ballots are only counted if the winner's margin of victory is less than the total number of provisional ballots cast. we have some numbers on that coming up later in the hour. counting the ballots will be a very complicated process. and the man at the center of it all, the man who some have called the most important person in this election is ohiosey te jhusted. he'll be joining me in a few moments. here is what we're watching in the hours ahead.
first swing state polls start closing at 7:00 eastern time. that is the cutoff of most polls in new hampshire, florida and virginia. and at 7:30, that's when polls as i said start to close right here in ohio. in wisconsin, colorado, 9:00 eastern is when those polls will start to close. and the last of the battleground poll closings, iowa and nevada will begin at 10:00 eastern time. john king is at our election center. break down the math. what are you watching tonight? >> well, erin, you're sitting in ground zero of the presidential election. here is where we begin election day in america. the president at 237 electoral votes, strong and leading. that's the blue on theap lileang, dk blue strong. governor romney, 206, dark red strong, light red leaning his way. pretty safe in these assessments. we'll watch pennsylvania, michigan. assuming this is the line jump going in, let me give you a scenario, the obama campaign is confident about nevada among the tossups. they're confident about wisconsin. republicans watching are saying
we'll prove you wrong. but let's go through the hypothetical. iowa as well, the republicif th won those three of the battlegrounds, that gets him to 259. in the romney campaign, they think they're going to win florida. the democrats say, no, we'll prove you wrong here, let's in this hypothetical give governor romney florida. colorado, won of the most hotly contested battlegrounds, talked to obama campaign people, they say we'll get it, the wopublicans say, oh, no, you the map is filled in except for ohio, where you are, 18 electoral votes, tossup, virginia, 13 electoral votes, and tossup, new hampshire, four electoral votes. could come down to four in new hampshire. if you look at this math, if you look at this math, the president can win either one of these and he's the next president of the united states. that's ohio and virginia. governor romney would have to win them both. erin, even as we wait for ohio, which has been right in every election since 1964, as you noted, no republican has ever
won without it, we're going to have an early clue, you noted the early poll closing in the state of virginia, these 13 electoral votes, in almost every .re going start to omneyo get results in virginia. that's first stepping stone. if you're in ground zero, in ohio, i would call virginia ground sub-zero. when the results start to come in, we're going to know if governor romney is viable as we head west. >> we will be watching virginia. as you mentioned, john, not only a battleground, in 2008, when you look at what you know so well, the county by county, the place it is going to give you an indicator of which way it goes, what's that? >> the president did that. he did that because of something we'll watch all night across the country. the changing demographics of america. this is the 2008 map, the president turned nine red states, nine george bush states like colorado, north carolina, virginia, the president turned them blue. how did he turn them blue? look at this map of 2008, virginia, you say, wow, john
mccain won most of the state. how did he not win the state? john mccain lost the state by 234,000 votes. guess where those 234 votes came from? therhe na suburbs, just outside of washington. governor romney yesterday was in fairfax county, virginia. critical. look what happened four years ago. 60-39. don't expect governor romney to win fairfax county tonight, but better be closer than that if he wins virginia. if you watch one county, neighboring prince william county. look again in 2008, 58-42. closer for john mccain, but nowhere near close enough. let's go back and reach across v was red.yollat the counties outside of washington, d.c. within an hour's drive, prince william and loudon, if governor romney can keep those red this time as opposed to last time or keep them very competitive, then he has a shot when you go out here. in the rest of the state four years ago, john mccain and barack obama ran even. i'll come back to the 2008 map here. four years ago, 400 votes
separated them outside of northern virginia. all of the business was done right here in fast growing northern virginia, where you have college educated women, you have latinos, right here, that is the balanttleground within t battleground. >> that's pretty incredible. so many people wondering if their vote counts. i think that says it more than anything else could. thank you to john. eric cantor is my guest right now. good to see you, sir. appreciate you taking the time. want to talk about virginia, as john send, ground sub-zero. here's what mitt romney said about your state in an interview today. >> i believe i'm going to win, but i can'thte will be tne puts me over the edge, but i can say virginia is critical in this. because without virginia, our pathway is much more difficult.
>> there are 13 electoral votes, obviously at stake, in your state, sir. does mitt romney win the white house without virginia? >> we' to r oio ws virginia. i'm here in the richmond area, and i've been out at the polls, all morning, all -- in the early afternoon, and the activity and the level of participation is very high in this suburban counties in and around the richmond area and the district i represent. these are counties, erin that went for john mccain at least in my district, portions of the counties in my district. we believe we are a strong republican area and are going to demonstrate so, even more so this time around. people are excited. mitt romney and paul ryan have all been here, many times, both within the last week. republicans are energized, they want to see a return to an economic future that has more jobs, more prosperity. and at the end of the day, that's what wins it for us here in virginia.
>> now, as you said, mitt romney put a lot of time into that state, six stops in your state in the past week alone. the latest polls we have show it neck and neck. the presidesident ahead by one point, well within the margin of error. that's got to frustrate you as the republican majority leader from the state. that the voters don't seem to give that overwhelming mandate that you're looking for. >> well, you know, virginia has a hor 44 d years gone with a republican for president and for first time had then gone for a democrat in electing this president. but what we have seen is the state that is growing, it is w has actuallyemy done better than that nationally. and so we have an electorate that is very focused on maintaining the kind of economic strength that we're used to here, and people in my district and around the commonwealth are very, very concerned about the direction that we have been heading in the last four years.
that's the issue this election, erin. that's what mitt romney is going to be elected by the voters here to do, which is to get this economy back on track. people here in virginia understand mitt romney's a leader who understands how to create jobs. >> let me ask you a question, i don't know if you saw this, but from the co-founder of google. he said i'm dreading today's elections not because my vote doesn't count as much as someone from alaska, which is a different topic i would love to talk to you about at another time, he said no matter who wins it is going to be a, quote, giant bonfire of partisanship. is that something you would be willing to do, you in a key, if not the most key position to make a deal on this country's fiscal future? >> well, erin, i think what voters here in virginia want to see is they want to see results. they want to see something done
about the overspending in dresot ton, somethindone to deficit situation, and they want to see a regotith the small businesses, here in this state, and elsewhere around the country. it is about results. and i do think after this election all of us will need to come together as americans to fix the problems that frankly we know how to fix. it is not as if we don't know the solutions, let's get together, have the courage and confidence to lead and lead in a fiscally prudent way and get america back to the kind of economic future that all of us want for our kids and theirs. >> all right, well, thank you very much, eric cantor, appreciate your time today. next, campaigning until the final minute. mitt romney is on his way to pennsylvania for his final campaign op. presiden though,s not alhoursnto battleground states his cn manager is out front next. plus, the election could come
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all right, down to the wire. mitt romney added last minute campaign stops in cleveland and pittsburgh today as president obama spent the day in chicago and off the campaign trail. playing some basketball with the former star scottie pippen. stephanie cutter is obama's deputy campaign manager at campaign headquarters in chicago. stephanie, one way or the other, you are going to get some well deserved sleep hopefully. hopefully we'll get an answer tonight on whom ever wins. >> hopefully, yes. >> let me ask you the question about campaign stops. mitt romney added some today, president obama did not. should he have? >> well, the president actually did a whole lot of satellite interviews into battleground states this morning. and he's doing more this afternoon. and, you know, on election day, the last thing you want to do is take your gotv staff, getting people out to the polls.
whether you're the president or mitt romney traveling to a battle ground state, your staff has to staff that person rather than doing their gotv work. we thought it was more beneficial to come here and satellite in to do tv interviews, encourage people to come out and vote and it has been a good productive day. >> let me ask you about pennsylvania. you've talked about how it tightened. everyone knows it tightened significantly over time. president was up 12 points in the latest polls we have, quinnipiac down to a four-point margin. are you worried mitt romney's last minute campaigning there could swing that state for him? could it make a difference, particularly, of course, in the west? >> well, no, i think that he's not going to swing the state. you know, the state has tightened, but we are confident that we're going to win it. and the polls, it is anywhere from four points to high single digits. we have got massive turnout in philadelphia. i spoke to governor rendell, former governor rendell an hour ago and he said our turnout in philadelphia in the philadelphia suburbs is probably going to
exceed 2008 levels. so we're confident we're going to win that state. i understand why mitt romney is going there, one last ditch effort to get himself to 270, but i don't think this pathway is going to work. >> so, let me ask you about karl rove. i know you're familiar with this. let me lay it out for the viewers. final electoral college prediction had romney winning with 285 electoral votes, ohio, colorado and iowa all in his list went for mitt romney. this was the guy who dubbed george w. bush's brain, engineered two victories for him. and against some tough odds. so how do you discount his map? >> we disagree with his map. we are certainly looking at a lot of data, we have been on the ground in states like ohio and iowa and colorado for some time. we have a significant early vote advantage in ohio. we have been up in the polls there, certainly there is people all over that state that appreciate what the president has done to turn the economy around in that state. and in iowa, what an amazing
rally we had last night in des moines to close out this campaign. it is where it all started. and in iowa, certainly, you see the enthusiasm with the record number of early voters coming out for this president. so we are in very strong shape going into election day. we have got high turnout at the polls in columbus, you know, the college students are coming out at very high numbers. we're pleased with where we are. i disagree with karl rove's math, but in a few hours we'll know who's right. >> well, we'll know who's right and whoever isn't, they'll have to go through the slog of what that means. thank you. good to see you. where i am today, ohio, stephanie talking about it, it could decide the next president. this is as john king said ground zero for this election. that is if there aren't any problems at the polls. how are things going so far? the man in charge, ohio secretary of state john husted is out front next. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time,
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a nightmare scenario in ohio. that's what some are talking about if the election could go on for a long period of time and it could do so because of provisional ballots. i showed you this yellow form. that's what you have to file if you requested an absentee ballot and didn't vote absentee or something else was amiss, a change of address, i.d. issues, you file a provisional ballot, it gets counted later. how much later? they start count manage ing in so it could be several weeks before we know who wins ohio if the provisional ballots are bigger. the man who is going to be in charge of deciding all of this is the ohio secretary of state jon husted. he is here with me again today. you were here last night. you are a man as we said some are saying the most important man in this election, not the guys running. you could have to make the decision here. let's go through this, really this is about math.
everyone in the state got an option to vote absentee, right? >> you didn't need to leave home to vote in ohio. >> how many people requested absentee ballots and of those, how many -- by the end of today, do you think you're still not going to know? >> we had about 1.3, 1.4 million requests. almost 90% have come in. and we think that probably at the end of the night we're talking about maybe 4% of those ballots will not have been returned in the range of 50 to 60,000 ballots. >> so 50,000 to 60,000 people who could have voted absentee and didn't and the rest of the provisional ballots, the people who fill out the yellow forms, people with address issues, perhaps, other things like that, right? >> that's correct. >> we don't know how that number could go. you were saying 4%. >> last time 211,000 provisional ballots in the last presidential election. that number could be in between 150 and 300,000.
it is hard to know. >> so a lot of people are saying if that provisional ballot, since you can't count them for ten days, if that comes out as it is bigger than the margin of victory, we may not know for ten days. provisional ballots do tend to skew democratic. do you think we'll be able to project a winner tonight? >> i really believe that we will be able to project a winner tonight. i think that people will have to stay up past their bed time to be able to do that, but it is -- it is likely that we'll know by the end of the evening. >> so you think we will know. now, when you look at ohio and the state, what do you think is going to decide it? we're looking at big cities like where we are in columbus, cincinnati, cleveland, all the different areas people are looking at, stark county. for you, where do you look first? >> you know, i really think that you look at central ohio. this is where a growing number of the votes come from in the state. and it is kind of a swing area. and if it leans -- if it leans, you know, toward one of the candidates, then i think that candidate is the one that is
going to win. >> that's when we'll be watching. no one knows better than you. thank you very much, secretary husted joining me outside the state house, at the center of everything in columbus, ohio. still to come, the first polls close in about three and a half hours. we're going to be fanning out around the country. the campaigning not over yet. mitt romney just in ohio and he's not done. we'll show you how the president is spending election day. plus, we'll take you to our reporters in three battleground states. find out who is winning the crucial game of voter turnout. long lines mean good things, everybody. it is a good thing. we'll be back. f men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription.
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welcome back to a special election day of "out front," election day in america. i'm in ohio, the state capital. it is the mother of all battleground states. mitt romney put so much effort into winning ohio that he made a last minute stop in cleveland this afternoon. so let's go inside the campaigns. candy crowley is at the romney campaign headquarters in boston.
dan lothian at the obama campaign headquarters in chicago. candy, i'll start with you. what is the campaign telling you with a few hours until the polls close? >> not very much is the short answer to that. i talked to a couple of them and the best answer i got, what are you seeing, anything hopeful, anything not so hopeful? i got back early voting looks good, but it is early. so they're not willing to go out on any limbs at this point. they're still in that phase where you're looking at those election lists, at individual polling places, looking at it and saying who of our guys hasn't shown up yet. and pinpointing who that is and going and getting them or calling them and saying, hey come on down, you got to vote. they note the heavy turnout we seem to be seeing wasn't in early voting as in before today, but also seeing today's early votes heavy as well. so they want to make sure that it is heavy in their direction and in the places where they need to come -- need to have
their supporters come out, to pull out, especially ohio, that's why you see mitt romney there today. >> that's right. of course, we'll get those early votes and absentee ballots as much as everyone, we have them all, we'll get those around 7:30 in the crucial state of ohio. we'll see which way that swung. the election day vote comes in through the night. dan lothian in chicago. you heard candy talking about what the romney campaign is telling her. the president started his election day tradition, if you call it that, two election days, pickup game of basketball. >> that's right. the president always plays basketball before every election. and in 2008 in new hampshire, he did not play before that voting taking place in new hampshire, he lost there, so they don't want to make that mistake this time. the president just a short time ago went to a local rec center, he's playing basketball with some staff and friends. they're very confident in the obama campaign, but the president in a radio interview with ryan seacrest did talk about having butterflies.
>> he talked about having butterflies. i like that. >> we don't have that sound. yeah, we -- right. so we don't have that sound, but he talked about how, you know, you -- okay, we have it now. he did talk about butterflies with ryan secrest. take a listen. >> i think anybody running for office would be lying if they say that there is not some but flier buter flies before the polls come in. that's the magic of democracy, it is up to the people to decide. at a certain point, you get calm because you know if you've done everything you can do, then the process is working the way it is supposed to, which is power now resides with individual voters. >> i just got an e-mail short time ago from a senior campaign official who was listing off all the efforts by volunteers in key
battleground states, hispanics, veterans, young people, seniors, who are either giving people rides to the polls or knocking on doors or working the phones. that's how they believe this race will be won by getting out the vote, so they're pushing that very hard in the final hours there. >> turnout and it is great when they say it is getting out the vote, means every vote matters. thanks to dan and candy. now let's go to the battleground states, outside the one where i'm sitting now, iowa, the latest cnn poll of polls shows the president ahead by three percentage points, polls not based on any voting you've seen today. poppy harlow is live in des moines, and you're looking at turnout. you've been watching the lines. who has been most effective in getting out their base today that you've seen? >> depends which campaign you ask. i talked to both of them within the hour. they both said we have been very effective. the obama camp telling me turnout is solid where we need it to be in this battleground state. the romney camp saying we feel
very confident. what was really key here, erin, what happened before today. that's the early vote. a record early vote in the state of iowa. that's what we're hearing about, 40% of total votes have come in early. i want to show you the numbers. these count all the way through the end of early voting yesterday. these really are totals from the secretary of state's office. it has democrats registered democrats leading by about 66,000 in early voting. 282,000 almost of early votes from democrats, about 215,000 from republicans and about 174,000 from no party affiliated voters. key independent voters. but i do want to qualify this by saying, first of all, democrats have a more narrow lead this election than they have in past elections here in terms of early votes and also democrats historically are better at getting out the early vote in iowa than republicans are. that said, the turnout here neck and neck, voters i've talked to, two key issues, whether they voted for romney or obama, one when it comes to the economy, they're very concerned about debt and deficit, more so than
jobs here. and when it comes to social issues, you've got a huge catholic and evangelical base here in iowa. they're voting on those issues as well, erin. >> thank you very much, poppy harlow. now to colorado where ed lavandera is standing by in the town of lakewood. different issues, i know, there, ed, that are driving things, perhaps, in the evangelical story in iowa. there is a pot measure on the ballot. how is the turnout? >> turnout is high. in fact, 1.9 million of the 3.6 million registered voters in the state have already voted. they voted earlier through the mail-in process, that seems to work so well here. voting locations like this at the green mountain recreation center in lakewood, a suburb of denver, you haven't seen serious lines here at all throughout the day. things running very smoothly. it is all about turnout at this point as well. we have been talking to republican and democratic strategists, talking about the ground game operation in turning out the votes in every corner of
this state. and everyone on both sides seems to think they are doing it well. but in the end, we won't know what the final numbers are until 7:00 mountain time, 9:00 eastern. so far there has been high turnout and the early voting numbers, republicans have a slight edge in the number of registered republicans that have voted over registered democrats. but the -- you can register as an independent in the state and those numbers as well are very high and that's why we're in jefferson county, colorado, one of the western swing suburbs of denver and all eyes will be on this on this county as soon as the polls close here as one strategist told us, as jefferson county goes, very likely the rest of colorado will go that way as well. here you have an equal number of republicans, democrats and independent swing voters that make up this county and that's why it is going to get so much attention here in the next few hours. erin? >> going to get a lot of attention there. thanks so much to ed lavandera. out front next, last minute moves on the campaign trail. when every second counts, what
do you do? you have a test, do you say i've done all i can do, take a break or keep studying? that's the difference we're seeing with the two men running for the white house today. will it make a difference? plus, predictions on when we're going to know a winner. former governor of this state joins me with his prediction and members of the best political team. ll. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal.
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right now, mitt romney is headed to pennsylvania for last minute campaigning, a mad dash to rev up supporters and get the last people to the polls. you heard john king saying 400 votes is what mattered in virginia last time. every single vote does matter. obviously more so when you live in a state that matters. president obama is out visiting campaign workers and apparently right now playing a pickup game of basketball. it is something he does on election day. but is it a mistake? out front this afternoon, ohio's former democratic governor ted strickland. he's here with me and the state capital of columbus. john avalon, senior political columnist with "newsweek", the
daily beast. rayhan salaam and gloria borger. first we're going to tackle the smarts or not of election day behavior for both men and then we'll tackle when we're going to know and who tonight. that's the gig. and the winner gets a million dollars or mitt romney bet 10,000 in something. governor strickland, today, the decision of mitt romney to go out. he's the challenger. so it would make sense. the president, though, did some interviews, but decided to stay home and play basketball. is that good optics or bad optics? >> i think the president may have touched more people through his calls if the concern is how many voters can you reach during this last few hours of the campaign. but, you know, election days, i think, are very special events and i think every politician deals with them sort of differently. >> it is all about your psyche and your psychology. you heard him say, he has
butterflies in his stomach, john avalon, the president, going for the younger voter with that interview. >> apparently. look, i think at the end of the day politicians could be superstitious people. we have been at this for two years. it may make candidates feel better to feel they have left no stone unturned, but it is like trying to will a foul ball fair at this point, holding another rally. i think the strategies either worked or it hasn't. and that's where we are with election day. the voters get to decide. it is somewhat out of the candidates' hands at this point. >> smart for mitt romney to campaign today? stephanie cutter of the obama campaign made the argument that by going to a swing state, you take staff away from knocking on doors and driving people to the polls when you come and visit. that's why she said it wasn't smart. >> i think that could be true for president obama. for mitt romney, he has to go out there to demonstrate to his core supporters he's out there, he's fighting, he's going to put blood, sweat and tears in the last day because the truth is that if mitt romney does win, it is going to be very, very narrow.
certainly when you look at a lost t lot of the state polls, mitt romney has something to prove. he has to show scrap. he's the one who has to energize his supporters to be sure they turn out for the polls. >> gloria, quickly, final word to you. sorry about that. who had the better strategy today? >> well, two words for you, joe biden. they said, okay, we're not going to send the president, but we did send at the very last minute in the 11th hour, they sent the vice president to ohio. and the reason they did that is they clearly made a decision that they didn't want mitt romney and paul ryan taking up all the local news time today, getting a lot of uninterrupted coverage for their events. so while they didn't send the president, they did send biden. they clearly understand it is a very close race in that state
and so they sent the president's top surrogate. so, you know, it is clear -- >> all right. >> -- that they decided not to sit back on this one. >> all right, we're going to hit pause. the prediction of when we're going to know and who it's going to be coming up after the break and rudy giuliani. dad vo: ok, time for bed, kiddo. lights out. ♪ (sirens)
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welcome back. we're just a little more than three hours from the first polls closing. so i want to bring back my panel and get the predictions of what every single one of you want to know tonight, right? who is going to win and at what time will we know that? former democratic governor of this state, ohio, ted strickland with me and john avalon and
rayhan salaam and gloria borger. governor strickland, you're a democratic governor, i'm going to bet what you're going to guess. but who will win? >> ohio will vote for the president. he'll be re-elected to a second term and ohio's results will be announced at 11:37 p.m. that's my prediction. >> i love a man who is unafraid to come out with a real prediction. none of this hedging. >> and confident. >> that's right. he set the standard here. who and when? >> 2:00 a.m., we're going to know, because if we don't know then, i will go to sleep anyway. and, yes, i think that mitt romney is going to win ohio. very narrowly. it is going to take a long, long time. >> so you think mitt romney will win ohio narrowly and will he win the presidency? >> yes, i think he will. i think it will come as a shock to many people. >> we got -- we got an obama, we got a romney. john avalon? >> oh, i hate predictions but i think at the end of the day it will be obama, dem keep the
senate, republicans keep the house, lose some seats, probably by midnight unless virginia breaks away from romney in which case it is an early night f romney pulls away pennsylvania, it is a long night. >> i know you can only give it time, gloria. in a word, what time do we know? >> i'm not sure when we know. the first time i'm going to know something, which is going to be at around 7:30 tonight, when we see what happens in the state of virginia. because, of course, that's very tight. we have to look at loudon county in virginia, and if the president were to win virginia, obviously the path to 270 is a lot easier for him. but if mitt romney wins virginia, it could be a much longer night. >> longer, but exciting. no matter who wins. thanks to all. one of the most vocal critics of the president, not only does he think the president should not be re-elected, he thinks he should resign. rudy giuliani next.
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poll after poll has shown that voters overwhelmingly say the economy is the most important issue to them. but former new york city mayor rudy giuliani says the deadly attacks on the american consulate in benghazi, i'll quote him, may be the most important thing in today's election. he called the president's handling of the situation incompetent. fair or going too far? he's here now to answer the question. mayor giuliani is out front. sir, great to see you as always. i want to start off with the attacks on benghazi. politicized by both sides. i wanted to play john mccain and robert gibbs, what robert gibbs said to john mccain last night on our show. here he is. >> i've been traveling all over the country, and veterans are angry. they're angry. they're upset, they don't trust barack obama. >> obviously people have a lot of respect for somebody like john mccain. but for somebody like that to go out there and say that people in the military don't trust the commander in chief, that's one
of the more shameful comments i've heard in more than 20 years of being in politics. >> mayor giuliani, do you really think benghazi is going to turn this election? >> no, i don't. but i do think it is the most important issue in the election. i think gibbs is being outrageous in attacking john mccain. john mccain just expressing what hundreds of veterans told me in the last four or five days, and here's totally indefensible part of it, erin. that consulate was attacked twice before september 11th, 2012. the second time in june, 14-foot hole drilled in the wall of that consulate. the british consulate had to leave. the red cross had to leave. the people in the state department that worked there were begging for help. and the president just ignored them completely. never provided the security that i believe a president mccain or president reagan or president romney would supply. a competent president would have supplied security in advance. forget about all the confusion after, once the attack began.
which i also think is outrageous and the white house is lying about, but put that all aside. there is no answer to why didn't the president supply security to that consulate when it was getting systemically bombarded for months. >> and what -- i know you're frustrated about benghazi, you make your case there. what about with hurricane sandy? the public approval's rating of the president of that is high. we're at the gbeginning of a log and painful recovery. but you're going against chris christie who said the president earned his praise. >> chris christie gave him that praise the first two days. president got a big tap on the back. then we go through four or five days of no water in new york, not enough generators, no water by fema, no help for the people in the streets, i've been in staten island. i've been bombarded with calls from people. i just have the man who is chief of my security has been working on this four or five days
telling me that there is really no help coming from fema. the president left behind a feeble effort. feeble so that if this had been george bush, all of you in the media would be criticizing, like crazy, just look at these people in staten island. look at the people in breezy point. look at the people out in long island, look at the people in northern new jersey. this is eight days later and they're still without power. and they weren't getting water. what the heck do we have fema for if they can't fly water here from various parts of the country? i think the president got his praise, he got his -- he got his photo-opand it helpedm a lot. with that. but ehen,s been awol or fema really hasn't done what i know fema can do, because fema was at my side from within four hours after the attack of september 11th, and when i needed search and rescue teams, they were flown into new york in four hours. when i needed extra generators they came in two hours.
i don't see that happening here. i sure don't see that happening for my people and this is not a political point. this is me angry as the former mayor who really is very, very close to these people and these parts of the city that were horribly affected by september 11th and now being ignored in the wake of this hurricane. >> all right, well, mayor giuliani, thank you very much. some moments very hard for any of us to see. we're going to be right back. kg place is? maybe somewhere around my house. mine's just, right over that way. well you can find out exactly where it is using bing elections. it's a good day for politics. which way do you lean politically? conservative. republican. well, using the bing news selector you can find news from whichever way you lean. (together) social on this side, financial. which party is currently predicted to win a majority in the senate? the republicans? would you make a bet on that? no. are you chicken?
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